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Old 11-10-2014, 01:04 PM   #61
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Can you divulge a few more details?
NAFTA
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He was Reagan on steroids.

Not to mention the Robert Rubin strong dollar policies that haunt us to this day.
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Old 11-10-2014, 01:39 PM   #62
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worst move in over half a century.
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If I thought a President was "supposed to" always serve based on his party's principles, I'd also wonder what planet I was on.
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Old 11-10-2014, 07:36 PM   #65
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If I thought a President was "supposed to" always serve based on his party's principles, I'd also wonder what planet I was on.
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Old 04-14-2015, 08:14 AM   #67
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(looks at Hillary/Jeb/Rubio/Ramd posts on facebook feed)

Early in 2015, and the 2016 elections are already about nothing. Going to be a long year and a half.
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(looks at Hillary/Jeb/Rubio/Ramd posts on facebook feed)

Early in 2015, and the 2016 elections are already about nothing. Going to be a long year and a half.
Oh, it's gonna be fun! Wait until they all start speaking in public! And the debates will be comedy gold!
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Old 04-14-2015, 12:00 PM   #72
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Old 04-15-2015, 06:35 PM   #74
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I see Clinton is starting her campaign on the glass ceiling theme that she's got to break. Seriously?
She's a former first lady who lost against a black dude in the US of A, yet she's calling discrimination?
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Old 04-15-2015, 06:47 PM   #75
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I see Clinton is starting her campaign on the glass ceiling theme that she's got to break. Seriously?
She's a former first lady who lost against a black dude in the US of A, yet she's calling discrimination?
That's one of the most common ways to try and get what you want in this country.
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I see Clinton is starting her campaign on the glass ceiling theme that she's got to break. Seriously?
She's a former first lady who lost against a black dude in the US of A, yet she's calling discrimination?
One could argue that a First Lady, by definition, gets there by virtue of a legal link to a man, not on her own merits and certainly not by a vote.

But that's beside the point as she's right in that there definitely is a glass ceiling. A woman has not held the presidency, ever, in almost 240 years (including 95 of those years with the right to vote).

There are assuredly gender perceptions, conscious and subconscious, behind that outcome, not just a dearth of candidates. All throughout the road to the presidency, women aren't held to the same standards. They often suffer from worse sexist crap. No one goes after male presidents - hell, male politicians - nearly as often about their hair, clothes, or handbags, or have character traits viewed and judged through a gender prism. Some of the gender-related obstacles to career paths start in school.

Like it or not, the presidency is the most visible signal to any girl anywhere of what she can grow up to (not) achieve in this country.
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As of now ill be writing in my vote. It will be hard to convince me even to vote a 3rd party.
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She's a former first lady who lost against a black dude in the US of A, yet she's calling discrimination?
Women equal roughly 50% of the population, but only 20% of the Senate (44 total in all of history), 18.9% of the House, and 20% of Cabinet Secretaries. In history there have been zero female Presidents, one female Speaker of the House, and zero Presidents Pro Tem of the Senate. There has never been a women in the Senate party leadership of either party, and Nancy Pelosi is the only woman to hold a party leadership position in the House (she's also the only female Speaker).

Hilary being personal successful, influential, or powerful is no more evidence against systematic gender inequality in high governmental positions than Barack Obama being the first black president is evidence against racial inequality (because the numbers on people of color in the positions I mentioned above are just as bad).

Anecdotes don't refute broad statistical trends (even when those anecdotes are people).
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One could argue that a First Lady, by definition, gets there by virtue of a legal link to a man, not on her own merits and certainly not by a vote.
But she was "co-president"....remember?

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That Hillary is a woman is not a valid reason to not vote for her.

That Hillary is a woman is not a valid reason to vote for her.
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Hillary is a terrible human being is a good reason not to vote for her.

Of course, the same will be true of the GOP nominee.
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Hillary is a terrible human being is a good reason not to vote for her.

Of course, the same will be true of the GOP nominee.
You can't know that for sure until they narrow down the huge list of terrible candidates!
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But she was "co-president"....remember?

"We are the president"

Are we still talking about Hilary, or Eleanor Roosevelt, Nancy Reagan, Edith Wilson, Rosalynn Carter, or...?
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Are we still talking about Hilary, or Eleanor Roosevelt, Nancy Reagan, Edith Wilson, Rosalynn Carter, or...?
Were talking about the one that said those words. I thought that was pretty clear.
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I would like to see a true left wing candidate. I'm tired of choosing between right of center and far right of center.
Honest question - what type of general platform would you expect from a "true left wing candidate"? I ask because a lot of conservative folks think the same thing but on the opposite side of the coin - they are tired of choosing between the center and far left of center. I don't think you're wrong in your view of the choices but I don't necessarily think the conservatives on the other side are wrong either.
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Left Wing Candidate: really no such legitimate thing in the US, as far as I can tell

Liberal Democrat: Green Party or Bernie Sanders
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At this point, I'd support Elizabeth Warren despite the fact that she and I have very serious philosophical differences.
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